steve.bragg123 wrote:

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Wow,

One more try to enlighten you!

My friend, your mind is so polluted with complete and utter nonsense! This is an ultimate defense of traditional religious anathema and hypocrisy when confronted by reality.

To translate from one language to another is a linguistic science. Filipinos translate from one language to another every day. What you are saying is sure absurdity. A translation is a translation. It does not matter if it is New American Standard Bible, New Living Translation, New International Version, Tagalog, Spanish or French. All the Bible translations are translated from the original Biblical languages of Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. Translation is not the issue here ... it is the book evolution from the decree of Constantine the Great to the present versions ... known to be the bible. How could a man accept bible rationality when he ignore the origin. One should know the origin and try to dissect series of versions before you have to conclude.

To say what you are saying is pure ignorance. You have never studied about the Bible. You may have read some anti Christian stuff but you have never examined the evidence for yourself or listen to a teacher who has studied the evidences.
Ignorance if man should be contented of what are the contents ... not stepping back to discern the origin ... if how ... why ... when ... what ... and where it came from. It is near-sightedness should a man confine his thought to the circular and open phrases ... then try to interpret to satisfy his passion and motive.

I challenge you to spend equal time with a teacher or books that present the other side of the Christian Faith and evidences. If you are an honest person you would do so. Because if God is real and you have been duped then your eternal existence is in jeopardy. If God does not exist then you have been intellectually honest and gain some knowledge about the subject. You are extremely right ... this was the challenge I had encountered to search for the true contents of the bible ... until I disengaged myself to any religious affiliation for I had discovered that religion is just a cockerel who crow at dawn so that the sun will shine again.

I sincerely pray you will take me up on this challenge. Your eternal soul may be at stake! Find someone who can teach and then listen. Only then can you make an intelligent decision. Oh common ... you're practicing your bread and butter to me.

God willing, when I get the Philippines I would love to present the other side one on one. God did not create the universe or you and me or write His testaments in an obscure corner. He is God and the evidence of Him is our existence. It all boils down to how did we come to be? Did we evolve from nothing to something or did our heavenly Father create us. Universe is a component of Energy, Time and Space that evolve by itself ... Should these three component be integrated and called God ... we are on the same horizon.

Very sincerely,
Steve Bragg,
Steve.bragg123

nenen422 wrote:

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only simple words i have to say is that..many wants to destroy the Bible but failed :) :kiss: :)

Mark 13:31 - Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Question yourself?:)

King James Bible
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Timothy 3:16

and so many other translation of this verse.... in different languages!!

my father always says to me this:

God says" If you love me Keep My Commandments!!
Thank God i know the truth.. To God be the Glory!!
I have my Savior Lord Jesus!!

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How King Version came about ...
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In year 325 AD, Constantine the Great called the Council of Nicaea. He ordered the first fifty copies of cordices to be undertaken by Bishop Eusebius from the works of a theologian named Origen before circa 231 AD, from the compilations of available records of the known Political Sanhedrin written by Josephus and convened by Romans in 57 B.C.E. (Taken from the Greek word for council (synedrion), the term was apparently applied to various bodies but became especially the designation for the supreme Jewish legislative and judicial court) Indeed the main theme was an excerpt from the surviving records of the Great Political Sanhedrin as the old Roman Constitution for Palestine during the reigned of Hasmonean dynasty and it should be understand that some thoughts and events were reconciliation of Origen and the rational knowledge of Eusebius suitable for that respective period.
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Copies were distributed as far as Great Britain. During the reign of Henry VIII, he ordered the English translation and was printed by Tyndale and Miles Covedale. The monarch then ordered the book to be set up on churches and be read. When James I was enthroned, he authorized the revision and clarification for Bishop Bible those appeared in 1568. During the renaissance age, Queen Victoria came into the throne and the general belief of World creation was 08th day of October 4004 BC, but later was disputed for it was a Sunday. Some scholars that era suggested an adjustment and proposed to be 27 years earlier. Those calculated guesses are irreconcilable on our time.

It is interesting that you would pick Eusebius as your point of attack on The Church or God. At the time of the Nicaea Council he was in rebellion (like you) of the many councils that had come together to establish the New testament books or Canon, which by the way had already long bend agreed to, and he questioned the Deity of Jesus and the trinity. Did you know before he died he later came back and agreed with the council? But the Arian controversy gained a foothold here with Eusebius and others. Eusebius also attacked the biblical Greek writings of the time 325 AD. I would assume because they did not agree with his view that Jesus was not God and the position of the Holy Spirit as a member of the trinity.

Steve Bragg
Steve.bragg123

Pala_Tuli, thanks for knowledgeable in History!! Thanks be to God!!

God still loves you and so do I.

By the way I’m an unemployed salesman. And I’m also a child of the King! I make no money in proclaiming the Good News. I give money to the proclamation of the Good News!

You stopped short in your studies. There is more to the controversy. Even though men have strayed from the truth and twisted the truth it does not eliminate the truth.

Think about this:

Thanks to the science of archeology we now have over 21,000 corroborating Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic manuscripts!!!

21,000 Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic manuscripts to translate into any language we wish with wonderful accuracy.

Because we have 21,000 corroborating manuscripts we have also found that God has wonderfully protected His Word to us in that all the translations throughout time are all accurate and in agreement!

Once again this shows God’s supernatural hand in preserving His Word for our redemption.

Sincerely,
Steve Bragg
Steve.bragg123